Jul 11, 2005, 07:59 PM // 19:59
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#21
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: United States
Guild: Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]
Profession: E/
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Originally Posted by Damon Windwalker
How is it "not fair" when it's a universal restriction?
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I think of it as you are "scaling" everyting up from where it is now and provide players who have the better income to be better off at 1st or allow people who buy gold a cheap way to jump in with less skill. In addition to increasing the price of runes, which goes against adding the rune traders (purpose to lower there cost).
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Jul 11, 2005, 08:54 PM // 20:54
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#22
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Wilds Pathfinder
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Originally Posted by Guild Powder
Why cant i stack a minor and superior rune or hell why cant i stack all 3?
As long as each rune is on a different peace of armor why cant i?
I find it unfair. I want lvl 20 bone horros but yet can only get to 18 due to limitations on the runes.......
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After reading your other post on rusher's and seeing your continued stupidity in the face of the community, and after reading this I have decided that you are just trying to stir up trouble and don't believe what you are typing.
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Jul 11, 2005, 08:59 PM // 20:59
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#23
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Wilds Pathfinder
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Guild Powder
How can that be unbalanced if you can use all 3 runes only.....
Its fair. Everyone is able to get them.......
What is with you and unfair?
If using all 3 runes that are AVAILABLE TO BUY is unfair then you got a problem.....
Explain to me how that is unfair.
better yet why not just give everyone exact same items/armor/stats and save us the time of even playing?
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If for some reason though you actually believe what you type I will try to correct your bad logic.
First being available to buy has nothing to do with it? You don't like the idea of putting on 5 superiors but why not since those superior are AVAILABLE TO BUY... I can buy 2 swords that are each 1 handed. Why can't I equip them in each hand since they are available to buy.
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Jul 11, 2005, 09:01 PM // 21:01
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#24
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Wilds Pathfinder
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Guild Powder
.....why do so many people want the least amount of stuff they can possibly have? You rather have +3 rather than +9? why what for? its not like runes are expensive. THIS COULD make them expensive. Barely anyone uses superiors or majors because of the health lost.....
Increase that and let us stack and we have a balance.
Less health but more stats.
Only one peace of armor each.
That is fair.
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once again correcting bad logic...
This wouldn't but be a momentary bump in the price. If the price got anywhere close to valuable farmers would merely stop farming their spots for weapons and go mass farm riverside hill giants spiking the supply until the price dropped again.
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Jul 11, 2005, 09:05 PM // 21:05
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#25
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Academy Page
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I just want to be stronger and prove that i am better than some. With all us being equal i cant prove anything. I play this game 10+ hours a day shouldn't i have something show for it?
Tons of people play this game like mad but have nothing to show. Its not fair that some of you can play this game barely a hour a day and still have the same stuff as us.
Some people even stop playing this game for weeks come back and still the same strenght as us. Thats not fair at all.
So you can sit on the couch for 2 weeks and come back and be as powerful as i am that ihave been playing constantly.
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Jul 11, 2005, 09:09 PM // 21:09
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#26
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: DOOM
Profession: E/N
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Guild Powder
I just want to be stronger and prove that i am better than some. With all us being equal i cant prove anything. I play this game 10+ hours a day shouldn't i have something show for it?
Tons of people play this game like mad but have nothing to show. Its not fair that some of you can play this game barely a hour a day and still have the same stuff as us.
Some people even stop playing this game for weeks come back and still the same strenght as us. Thats not fair at all.
So you can sit on the couch for 2 weeks and come back and be as powerful as i am that ihave been playing constantly.
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If you want to prove you are better than other people, get D2, there you can easily be the best by grinding for 200 hours.
Guild Wars isn't the game to prove you are the best, it is a game about teams, hence the name GUILD Wars.
People who play this game like mad probably have FoW armor, and all the skills and stuff, while the people who play an hour a day just have droknar's. This is a game that is for casual gamers, not people who like to grind for hours on end.
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Jul 11, 2005, 09:16 PM // 21:16
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#27
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jun 2005
Profession: W/Mo
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seriously, the difference between this game and D2 is the balance. no characters are super uber like in D2. teamwork is a huge part of this game, as arnansnow said.
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Jul 11, 2005, 09:35 PM // 21:35
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#28
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Ascalonian Squire
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Guild Powder
I just want to be stronger and prove that i am better than some. With all us being equal i cant prove anything. I play this game 10+ hours a day shouldn't i have something show for it?
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I wouldn't normally use this acronym, but... omfg, that was priceless! Just... wow. Apart from being the epitome of the "prove that i am better"-with-gear gamer, you so do not understand what Guild Wars is all about.
Thanks for the laugh!
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Jul 11, 2005, 09:38 PM // 21:38
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#29
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: The Wandering Gits
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Powder - the thing you don't seem to realize is that one of the primary goals of this game was to NOT have it be another "farm forever to be the best" game. It's supposed to be about how you construct your character, how you layer your skills, and how you play what you have.
That's what's called "skill." What you want it to be able to be a doomsday device that can walk over everything. What's the fun in that?
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Jul 11, 2005, 09:51 PM // 21:51
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#30
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: California - irrigated desert...
Guild: The Myrmidon
Profession: E/N
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Guild Powder
Why cant i stack a minor and superior rune or hell why cant i stack all 3?
As long as each rune is on a different peace of armor why cant i?
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13 year old alert!
You can stack runes to your heart's content.
You only receive the benefits from the most powerful one however.
Why? Why can't you? Why is life so darned unfair?
Because my young friend, to do otherwise both unbalances the game and is considered cheating.
Tell me, why can't you just take all the checkers off the board and say you won?
Why? Why not? huh? c'mon!
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Jul 11, 2005, 09:57 PM // 21:57
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#31
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Academy Page
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Talesin Darkbriar
13 year old alert!
You can stack runes to your heart's content.
You only receive the benefits from the most powerful one however.
Why? Why can't you? Why is life so darned unfair?
Because my young friend, to do otherwise both unbalances the game and is considered cheating.
Tell me, why can't you just take all the checkers off the board and say you won?
Why? Why not? huh? c'mon!
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why do you mock me when your 42 and play a game instead of working......
I was giving a simple suggestion and you completely flame me for no reason. and im 19 btw.
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Jul 11, 2005, 10:35 PM // 22:35
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#32
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Ripon, Wisconsin
Guild: IVEX
Profession: Mo/
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I know plenty of people who play this game that are over 30, you don't have to be a teen to play games....
Arena.net's main concern seems to be making a fair game for PvP. Meaning that skill/teamwork/strategy will prevail rather than play time. This will never change, and I suggest a regular MMORPG(WoW, EQ2) for you.
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Jul 11, 2005, 11:33 PM // 23:33
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#33
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: May 2005
Guild: The Madison Scouts
Profession: E/Mo
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Jul 11, 2005, 11:42 PM // 23:42
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#34
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Wilds Pathfinder
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Guild Powder
I play this game 10+ hours a day.
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seriously man, get a life. if you play 10 hours a day, say you sleep for a minimum of 8 hours, that leaves you with 6 hours a day to eat, drink and live your life. get your priorities straight, guild wars is not your life. jeez, go get some friends or something.
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Jul 11, 2005, 11:49 PM // 23:49
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#35
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: Ivory and Steel
Profession: N/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Guild Powder
I just want to be stronger and prove that i am better than some. With all us being equal i cant prove anything. I play this game 10+ hours a day shouldn't i have something show for it?
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Skill doesn't come from items. It doesn't come from Runes. Having a rune that gives you an advantage will not show that you are better. It will, however, show that you're willing to sit on your arse for hours on end to either get the money for the runes in question, or to get the runes themselves. No skill involved.
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Tons of people play this game like mad but have nothing to show. Its not fair that some of you can play this game barely a hour a day and still have the same stuff as us.
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Sure they do skippy. They have the knowledge that they are better than the rest of the players out there. I read it all the time when I'm in game "listn 2 me i no this mish!!!1 omg!". They also have hours that they will never get back for playing a game. Hours that they spent willingly, granted. You want something to show for your hard earned gold/items? Go join a guild and get in the HoH tournament. Keep favor for the rest of us trying to get into FoW and UW. That would be something worthwhile.
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Some people even stop playing this game for weeks come back and still the same strenght as us. Thats not fair at all.
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Wrong again. It's actually painfully fair, and balanced. Why should a few players, who play this game near incessantly, have more advantage than those of us who can't devote 10-18 hours a day? There is no logic behind your argument.
The "because I spend more time than you" argument makes you sound like you're a whiny 12 year old trying to get to level 100 before everyone else.
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So you can sit on the couch for 2 weeks and come back and be as powerful as i am that ihave been playing constantly.
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That, my whiny little friend, is what makes this game great.
Some will use strategy, others will grind for items. I'll give you 2 guesses as to who will win 90% of the time.
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Jul 11, 2005, 11:50 PM // 23:50
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#36
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jul 2005
Profession: W/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Guild Powder
Why cant i stack a minor and superior rune or hell why cant i stack all 3?
As long as each rune is on a different peace of armor why cant i?
I find it unfair. I want lvl 20 bone horros but yet can only get to 18 due to limitations on the runes.......
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Very simple. It is because the game developers have decided so. You can`t get all that you want, just as in real life. And there is a good reason why things are the way they are: game balance, which is utterly important in a game like this.
Power gaming would really ruin Guild Wars.
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Jul 12, 2005, 12:49 AM // 00:49
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#37
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: May 2005
Guild: The Seraphim Knights [TSK]
Profession: R/
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19 years old, 10 hours a day gaming + 6 to 8 hours sleeping leaves 6 to 8 hours for meals and a job. Just because you can play 10 hours a day doesn't make you a good player. Items won't make you a better player. This game is not about being UBER, it's about strategy. I used to play M:tG, around 96-97 I built a griffin deck because the 3 expansions in that period had lots of them, not the most powerful creatures in the game but I consistently beat the people I played, not 100% of the time, but 70-80% because I had a good strategy. The entire deck had only two rares in it, 60 cards 2 rares, 3.33% rares, the rest were common and uncommon.
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Jul 12, 2005, 01:35 AM // 01:35
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#38
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Wilds Pathfinder
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Guild Powder
.....why do so many people want the least amount of stuff they can possibly have? You rather have +3 rather than +9?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Guild Powder
ONE MAJOR
ONE MINOR
ONE SUPERIOR
in different armors.
thats only +1 +2 +3= +6 total
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You just owned yourself.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Guild Powder
Its fair. Everyone is able to get them.......
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Guild Powder
Explain to me how that is unfair.
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Gladly. According to your logic, letting every attack be an instant kill would be "balance" because everyone would be capable of insta-killing everyone. So why not just give everyone weapons that do 1000's of damage from unlimited range? Because it is imbalanced.
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Jul 12, 2005, 01:39 AM // 01:39
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#39
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Mascoutah, Illinois
Guild: Dragon Busters (DB)
Profession: R/Me
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people flame people too much
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Jul 12, 2005, 02:04 AM // 02:04
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#40
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Tyria
Guild: Real Millennium Group
Profession: Mo/N
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Guild Powder
I just want to be stronger and prove that i am better than some. With all us being equal i cant prove anything. I play this game 10+ hours a day shouldn't i have something show for it?
Tons of people play this game like mad but have nothing to show. Its not fair that some of you can play this game barely a hour a day and still have the same stuff as us.
Some people even stop playing this game for weeks come back and still the same strenght as us. Thats not fair at all.
So you can sit on the couch for 2 weeks and come back and be as powerful as i am that ihave been playing constantly.
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No, I can sit in my daughter's nursery and reflect on the joy she has brought my family. Guild Wars is a game designed to be enjoyed by all (including those of us who have lives outside of your virtual reality). If you don't like it - don't play the game. There's no reason the rest of us need to have a less pleasurable experience while playing GW just because you have nothing better to do with your time.
Hanok Odbrook
Real Millennium Group Guild
http://www.realmillenniumgroup.com/guild.html
Truth * Knowledge * Peace
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